me: RIGHT. the original article was basically about Amy and how gross it is that we have a 19-year-old character who marries her teen sweetheart and then they split up when she turns out to be infertile and her job is first a 'kiss-o-gram' (stripper) and second a model. it wasn't that horrible save for a few points:
allen: :( moffat what the hell
allen: (the sad thing is that there are a lot of things i like about amy pond, it's just that her role in the writing is fucking awful 99% of the time)
me: 1) it recommends unlikeable personality vaccuum River Song as being a Strong Female Character when she has a backstory FAR, FAR CREEPIER than any of the creepy bits in Amy's story and has 800% less personality and 800000000% more kids'-show-inappropriate sexual innuendo.
allen: ughhhhh river song 8(
me: 2) it mocks the other nu who companions based on their jobs as well as Amy's - which as you will recall is a department store assistant, trainee doctor and an office temp.
me: AND THEN THE COMMENTS
me: :D KILLALLFEMINISTS.EXE
me: smart person: 'However, I think that it’s unfair to trivialise Rose as a shop assistant and Donna as a temp. People who work in shops and behind receptionist desks are real women too and deserve to see Space and Time too and as you say yourself, it beats being a Lois Lane rip-off. '
me: asshole: 'A lot of these comments seem to me to be missing the point a bit. The companions are bright, witty, feisty, courageous, quick-thinking and so on. In real life, women like that don't have, or shouldn't have, pointless, badly-paid, dead-end, whatever, jobs.'
me: /turns on GO FUCK YOURSELF PA
me: /attracts large crowd of GO FUCK YOURSELF revellers
me: /comes on stage surrounded by GO FUCK YOURSELF smoke from my GO FUCK YOURSELF machine
me: /drops the GO FUCK YOURSELF bass and it sounds like
allen: oh my fucking god did that really get published in an anything
me: as someone who has been constantly seeking work for over six months and NOT EVEN GETTING A CLEANING POSITION despite being a reasonably adequate human
allen: that is so STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS level missing the point
me: it misses the point about the Companion fantasy
me: which is that these women only reveal themselves to be strong and intelligent and quick when they are removed from their toxic environment and taken amazing places.
me: Amy was working a shitty job because she lived in a shitty small town with a post office and a pond with no ducks.
me: which didn't have much room for MAD SCOTTISH DEATH MACHINES.
me: do they not get that the whole appeal of being a companion is that it's an escape from the boring, mundane, miserable reality of whatever you're stuck with
me: Donna was working a shitty job partly because her abrasive personality was masking a total lack of faith in her own abilities.
me: and it's made clear that her shit job is A BIG PART OF WHY she feels she isn't cut out for anything
me: she constantly complains to the Doctor that she's just a temp
allen: interesting that martha, who has the most promising career, is also the one who chooses to leave the doctor on her own terms.
allen: i mean granted there's the whole deal with being put through the wringer for a year when he vanishes at the worst possible time
me: it's the Rose bashing that REALLY pisses me off because did they miss the enormous glaring signs that Rose is WORKING CLASS AND LIVING IN AN INNER CITY COUNCIL FLAT meaning she is enduring CLASS-BASED DISCRIMINATION which is a big effing thing everywhere but moreso here where we're all obsessed with social class????????
allen: seriously how do you miss that
allen: i've watched less rose episodes than any other companion and i noticed that
me: so what if she was working in a department store at nineteen? not only is that the EXACTTTT kind of job you do when you are nineteen, she is undereducated and probably raised not to expect much better.
me: that's a problem with Rose's home, not a problem with Rose.
me: (and there are MANY problems with Rose, don't even lie)
allen: (oh lord yeah)
me: (so why invent a problem that isn't one just to justify your bullshit Randian fantasies in the name of GETTING RIGHTEOUSLY ANGRY AT TELEVISION)
me: and that is the FIRST line of the comment
me: it goes on
me: 'The article is right: this is a misogynist fantasy and a crappy message for the kids who watch the show. It's also part of the depressing sexist dumbing down of TV, where apparently in order to be sympathetic, female characters have to be inadequate. You can bet that any high-powered woman will trip over her own feet or spill something down her front in the first two minutes of being introduced. Or she'll turn out to be the villain.'
me: for women to be working shitty jobs
me: like many of them do
me: also, the reason why female characters have to be 'inadequate' is because it is impossible to GIVE A CRAP about a character who is rich and does everything perfectly all the time, male or female
me: i agree that it is more acceptable to have gary stus of that mould than mary sues, but that doesn't mean there should be more mary sues, it means that gary stus are also rubbish characters.
allen: if they are rich and perfect like that, we're going to assume they're secretly an asshole and murder kittens for sexual gratification
allen: because rich people
me: also re villains - villains are SUPPOSED to have everything on their side. that is the basic rule to making a villain worth defeating.
me: even stories which are about rich, white handsome people beating up poor PoCs with no resources, SOMETHING is done in the way the story is told so that the poor PoCs appear to have the upper hand.
me: villains have to be strong so that heroes can look tough beating them. simple.
me: anyway some other bright spark in the comments (i swear this is the last one) points out that the asshole commenter is wrong, BUT DOES IT WRONGLY
allen: AUGHGH i hate it when that happens
me: 'WTF ? I don't agree with you ... women should have the choice to do whatever they want to do no matter how feisty their personalities are.'
me: /RIPS SKIN IN HALF, TRANSFORMS INTO UNHOLY TENTACLED HORROR, HOWLS A MOURNFUL NOTE AT THE MOON, FEASTS ON BLOOD OF THE INNOCENT